The Truth about the Founding Fathers -- Is David Barton Telling the Truth?

When I first read the article by Chris Pinto about David Barton I was awash with disbelief. Honestly, I thought this Pinto guy was off his rocker. To explain why, here is my excuse: I was homeschooled, and therefore not indoctrinated by the public school system, and since we believed that the public school system is wrong in their teaching that the founding fathers were atheists, we were supportive of David Barton and his products. We believed that what he said was the truth that the world didn't want you to hear. So you can understand my reluctance to accept Mr. Pinto's claims. It was a sort of 180. In my loyalty to what I thought was the “truth” I immediately set out to disprove these assertions. Before I go any further I want to add that I am not saying that that is what Mr. Pinto concludes, and I myself am not going to conclude that the public system is correct. I do not believe the founding fathers were atheists, though whether some where agnostics or not I do not know.
First on my mission, I located the full letter on David Barton's site, Wallbuilders, and then found the series of letters in question, thanks to Warren Throckmorton, a psychology professor at Grove City College in Pennsylvania. I read Adams' letter to Rush first with the belief that Barton was correct and then I read it again with the assumption Pinto was. At first, I thought without knowing the mood in which Adams writes it is hard to tell whether he speaks in sarcasm or whether he truly believes what he says. But one cannot always assume the writer is speaking sarcastically and, besides, I'm no history professor. It took a careful study for me to get the meaning and, on the letters alone, I have come to the conclusion that John Adams was a Unitarian, therefore he did not believe what the Bible says about the Trinity, though whether he believed in Jesus as the Messiah or called himself a Christian, I do not know. I do know that I greatly disagree with what he says about the Trinity. Furthermore, his wife says very plainly: "I acknowledge myself a Unitarian”. And who can argue with such a clear profession? Barton paints a pretty picture of the Founding Fathers that is not altogether true, I have found, but in my opinion his fault lies in his definition of what a Christian is, which is somewhat lacking in Biblical principals. This is a point I arrived at after hearing David Barton talk on his own radio show, Wallbuilders-Live, about the genuineness of Glenn Beck's faith while still remaining a Mormon. To hear it for yourself, click here. Barton argues that Beck's testimony is authentic because he openly professes it, and by his “fruit”, quoting Romans 19: 9,10, and Acts 16:31. He also says, “Glenn says he's Mormon, that's fine,” calling it nothing more than a label. What is a label but that which describes a person? I disagree entirely with him. Besides, Mormonism and Christianity are polar opposites; they cannot coexist. If you question this then read the remarks of a former Mormon and his response to a similar claim by Joel Osteen about Mitt Romney. Mormonism is nothing more than a cult, though I digress. My subject is David Barton and the truth about John Adams.
So, first of all, David Barton's idea of what defines a Christian is unbiblical. Anyone can make a claim, and anyone can do a good thing. These, at least in my book, are not what the Bible means by “fruits”. Second, Barton claims Unitarianism has changed in its meaning since the days of John Adams, and declares that Unitarians once believed in the Trinity. The opposite of a Unitarian is a Trinitarian, the names tell all. But just in case your not sure you believe me, here is the definition for them both: A Unitarian is “a person who maintains that God is one being, rejecting the doctrine of the Trinity”, and Trinitarianism is “believing in or adhering to the doctrine of the Trinity”. Now I don't doubt that many words have changed in their meaning since their creation but here's an article that helps reinforce the aforesaid: David Barton on John Adams – The Trinity. In this article by Warren Throckmorton, he quotes Holley Ulbrichs, author of The Fellowship Movement, and member of the Universalist Unitarian church, saying, (and I shall paraphrase) that Unitarians are just what they have always been, and that is people who believe in God but not the Trinity. If you are still not convinced read Adams letter to Thomas Jefferson, contained in the article mentioned just above. John Adams, his wife Abigail, and Thomas Jefferson, all use the same phrase as proof of their beliefs,”one is not three, and the three are not one”, using the belief that God gave humans the ability to reason, which I agree with, but saying reason denies belief in the Trinity. One thing I fail to understand is how someone can believe one principle from the bible and discredit another.

Now that I have come to these conclusions more questions come to mind. For example: Who then of our Founding Father's were Christian's? And if most of them were not, then why has God blessed America so much? If this is so then there is no point in “returning to the faith of our Fathers”, is there? Or as David Barton puts it, “Bringing America back to its roots”. Is everything that we thought was true nothing but hot air created by good feelings and well-wishes? Until next time, when hopefully I can answer some of these questions...



Introduction to the GoldenSails of Over The Horizon

My name is Amy but in cyberspace I prefer to be known as GoldenSails. As you will soon see I like to write and I write about anything that interests me. In writing I believe the subject should be well researched and the facts accurate; I'm a firm believer in getting the facts straight. I have many interests, which I find sometimes creates a problem for me when I feel one in particular needs honing. I've made a list (another thing I like to do) of my interests and came up with a lot. I looked at it and can't help thinking how ridiculous it would be to endeavor to do them all, but of course that is not my intention. To give you a better idea of myself I will go over each interest as briefly as possible.

1. Author/ Historian (-Reading)
I love history and I love to write so what could be better than to write about history. Historical fiction are my favorite genre of book to read, and Classics; I can't tell which I like more. Of the Classics these are my top three: 1. The Scarlet Pimpernel, 2. The Count of Monte Cristo, 3. The Three Musketeers. Come to think of it, I could list more than five, but those are my favorites. I've read Jane Eyre, Robin Hood by Howard Pyle, Pride and Prejudice, Captains Courageous, Treasure Island, A Christmas Carol (which I try to read or listen to every Christmas), Little Women, etc. This is a subject my sister and I can talk about forever. But before I go on to the next thing I want to recommend my favorite historical fiction series: The Buccaneers, a series by Linda Chaikin. Excellent read! Mine and my sisters favorite.

2. Costume Designer/ Makeup Artist/ Hair Stylist (-Drawing)
Really, these are just hobbies. Becoming one of these has never been a serious option for me, they're just fun things I like to do when I get a chance. I draw the costume ideas and get a lot of my inspiration from... History! How did you know?

3. Archaeologist (Maritime) and Marine Biology
Now archaeology, and more specifically, maritime archaeology, is something that I have seriously considered getting into but the nearest college that teaches it is in Florida and that's a lot of drive time, and a lot of money. I'd have to be dead set on it being God's will for me before I began that venture. That goes the same for marine biology. I love animals and this is a fascinating science but to become a marine biologist I would have to be sure and committed. I can't figure out why God would give me so many interests and hardly one I could pick above another. Some might say I am confused, but technically it all boils down to what is God's will for my life and at the present, though I really enjoy these things, I don't feel like I have that assurance that any so far are His will for my life. But that doesn't keep me from studying them on my free time. ...Someday I'll define what free time means...

4. Missionary
Of all my interests this one is probably the most important to me. I have felt strongly pretty much all my life that this is what I want to be but so far I am still searching. I still have a lot of questions and, naturally, I don't feel I have what it takes.

And my hobbies-- I sculpt figurines and my favorite to sculpt are flowers, or more specifically, roses. I also do silly animals and realistic animals. So far Sculpey III is what I use but I have played with others in the past, such as Premo and Studio by Sculpey. Someday I want to sit down and start a large project, but I have to wait for the right time, when I know I can get it done.
  While watching TV I usually crochet. I prefer big things that take a while to crochet and baby blankets are my specialty, but I try whatever I feel like at the time. I mainly stick to wearable things, but I have made an amigurumi before. I don't knit, but I have tried to learn. I am self-taught in a lot of things but I haven't been able to manage well in knitting so I plan on trying to learn from a DVD, when I get one. I'm not a good sewer but I enjoy trying. I like the feeling of being able to make whatever I please. So far all I have tried to make are skirts and smaller things like liners for my crocheted purses and pillows. But I know the basics, thanks to Sewing For Dummies.
  Now, I know I said "scrapbooking" but what I do is a little different. Most people create pages for their pictures they have taken, usually of family, but I gather pictures, usually of old sailing ships or animals, and create a whole theme with them. I actually started this for school years ago when I was researching, my favorite subject, maritime history. I collected pictures but didn't know what to do with them. So I printed them and started making pages. It takes time but I love to do it every once and a while. I'll give you an example: one of my pages doesn't have a single picture, instead I printed some poems that had to do with some of the other themes I had. I then cut out copies of old stamps. I soaked the sections that had the poems on them in strong black tea (I hear coffee works too). Then I added some ribbon, after layering a couple of sheets of paper, one dark brown, the other a scrapbook page I bought from Hobby Lobby of burgundy script written in old style. I was satisfied with the outcome (you see, I'm not always) and put it in with the rest. Now I know that strong black tea ages paper nicely.

So as you can see, I like to do quite a lot but most important are the every day things that I can help my family with, like the cooking and managing that is necessary for everyday living. Since I was homeschooled I have had to learn to balance my schedule in order to do what is most important. Plus, due to that, I have had the freedom to actually enjoy learning. Some say learning is never fun, and some say it should never be fun, but from my experiences, if it is enjoyable you learn more. But that is starting a whole other subject. For now I will sign off and shut my "notebook". Before I do I want to add that I have moved from another blog HomeSchoolBlogger because, though it is excellent for mothers and preteens, since I am neither I thought this might fit my style more. I wish to promote them, however, as a really good and safe site for anyone who wants something more or just different than this. So until next time...